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Bridget Mckinney May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

One reviewer on calls The Gate to Women s Country gender essentialist, heterosexist, cissexist garbage, and it is, I suppose First published in 1988, The Gate to Women s Country is very second wave feminist and exhibits many of the problems one would expect from that description It s also beautiful and sad and, while exclusionary, an otherwise excellent and enjoyable treatment of the issues that it did deal with.The Gate to Women s Country examines an honestly not so unlikely hypothetical future [...]

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Katie May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

Gender essentialist, heterosexist, cissexist garbage Avoid at all costs.

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Spider the Doof Warrior May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

I hate this book Maybe I should read it again, but there s so many other books I want to read, so many other books I d rather read again than this one.Maybe there was some sort of thing I missed the first time I read it in college, but mostly it made me mad.They got rid of homosexuality, most of the men are brutes and fascist and violent, except for the servitors Yet the women still have sex with the brutish men even as they are trying to breed them out of existence.Then you get some random scar [...]

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Amy Sturgis May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

Tepper offers a fascinating meditation on how a post apocalyptic people might seek to limit the potential for future violence and thus avoid another devastating presumably nuclear holocaust The division of genders into Women s Country and the Warrior society is a deeply unsettling one The men live a Hobbesian life that is nasty, brutish, and short, while the women preserve a disconcertingly passive aggressive tyranny based on secrets and half truths and closeted eugenics programs The book sugges [...]

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F.R. May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

Well, here s some fantastic feminist science fiction The Gate to Women s Country takes gender roles, pushes them to the limit and sees a way to both destroy and rebuild them It presents a compulsively drawn world, which looks forward and back as far as the ancient Greeks, to examine how defined the differences between society s views of men and women are On the surface, it s about how these roles are fixed with woman s place as the mother and man s as the warrior and the protector But in reality [...]

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Christy May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

On my second reading I don t think I gave Tepper enough credit the first time I read this book The treatment of homosexuality still bothers me Although, as one commenter has said, it could be argued that this is simply an authorial choice to make it easier for Tepper to explore the specific issues she wishes to focus on, it strikes me as too simplistic to simply say, Oh, teh gay, we fixed that a while back, especially since the book is so much about questions of biology and essential natures and [...]

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Amanda May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

This is the book that introduced me to Sheri Tepper It addresses questions of why humanity is so violent and possible solutions, of gender politics, of what a future might be like if men and women did not live together as a rule In this post apocalyptic future, matriarchal women live in walled towns, carrying on agriculture, arts, crafts and politics Men live outside the towns in warrior garrisons, to protect the women.The story is about our heroine and how she learns some of the secrets of her [...]

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Cara May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

Of all the books by Sheri S Tepper I have read, this is perhaps the most overtly feminist in that the post apocalyptic society she describes is clearly matriarchal Yet it is not an angry, man bashing diatribe Instead The Gate To Women s Country presents a fledgling eco utopian society where the ultimate aim is balance and equality between the sexes within a pacifist, non violent culture The means by which the Women s Council set out to achieve this balance, however, are both morally and ethicall [...]

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Greg May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

I remember reading this book for a Science Fiction class I took in college Unlike probably everyone else in the class, except for my friend Chris, I hadn t ever gone through a scifi phase, or ever liked reading scifi books The closest I ever came was really liking Star Wars and other movies as a kid I d even tried once reading a Star Wars novel as a kid and thought it was stupid and gave up on it So I took this class in a genre I had no interest in, and the teacher was all gung ho about sf being [...]

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Kathleen May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

I have found Tepper to be frustratingly uneven as a writer When her stories take on what might be called a feminist theme, they don t work as well for me as those who explore other themes.This novel has a frame that I found especially irritating because the emotions described in the frame were never earned, and I did not find myself believing in or caring about them.The inner story was, by contrast, quite engaging, and I found myself wishing that she had left out the frame entirely.

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Emily May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

My review just disappeared and I really don t feel like regurgitating the specifics of my dislike for this book again, so this will be shorter than my original How annoying.Basically, the book left a sour taste in my mouth The only options for civilization or anything resembling it are a primitive, polygamous society that abuses its women and leaves infant girls out to die roving bands of Gypsies that act as traveling whorehouses and Women s Country where the Damned Few keep the truth from every [...]

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Nikki May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

I wasn t expecting to enjoy this one too much, honestly I hadn t heard 100% good things about Tepper s work before, and some of the great feminist works of SF have been lost on me The Female Man, for example The Gate to Women s Country is from the same decade, so I wasn t very hopeful And there were some cringe worthy moments, to be honest the whole bit about gay syndrome being cured now, for example.Still, for the most part I really enjoyed this It reminded me a little bit of Jo Walton s The Ju [...]

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Petra May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

I had some issues with this novel that prevented me from giving it a higher rating 1 not so subtle ramming of author s opinions down the reader s throat, and poor characterization as a result from evil inbred religious extremists, to equally cliched women are the sufferers Iphigenia play not to mention those evil hyper masculine men that make sufferers out of women 2 depiction of homosexuality as an illness that gets successfully eliminated by some good ol genetic manipulation 3 gender essential [...]

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Steelwhisper May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

Firstly, how can anyone rate such an atrociously written book as high as I see it done in hundreds of ratings Dear me, I was wincing all the time while reading The excruciatingly bad prose, including some horrific abuse of grammar, was having an effect like a severe toothache on me Where was the fecking editor of this book Because this sort of prose was in no way typical of writers of the 1980s book is from 1987 , when you get such female SciFi, Fantasy and spec authors as C.J Cherryh, Ursula K [...]

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Ed Mestre May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

Sheri Tepper has yet to let me down I don t read a lot of science fiction, but when I do it is most often Philip K Dick or Tepper Dick for his street philosopher questioning the nature of reality, psychedelic prankster approach And Tepper s imaginative unique, often non linear writing with a definite, but never strident, female perspective In the 3 books of hers I ve read, Fresco , Family Tree , here The Gate to Women s Country the protagonists are women In this one she takes on nature of relati [...]

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Gretchen May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

A friend sent me this knowing full well that I didn t like futuristic novels he said I am sending this to one of the strongest women I know I have probably read it 100 plus times it is like comfort food I found myself reading it along with the New Testament the week my sweet husband died I like the empowerment given to some women even though the men can t or don t want to understand The empowered women see themselves as the damned as they manipulate the DNA and the numbers of their civilization [...]

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Zach May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

The Gloria Steinem of second wave inspired post apocalyptic novels of gender separation making Walk to the End of the World Shulamith Firestone, perhaps, and The Shore of Women Simone de Beauvoir I don t know, I haven t actually read those two yet Anyway my point is that this is the sort of essentialist but maybe not liberal feminist version of the story, wherein men and women are fundamentally different and need to be mostly kept separate for their own good, except for those womanish men who ha [...]

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Wanda May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

Very much a product of its time Post nuclear war, societies are sorting themselves out and we get to witness two ways of dealing with things One is very, very matriarchal, the other over the top patriarchal As I began reading, I started with the impression that I was exploring a very patriarchal set up Fooled me Yes, the women and men live mostly separately and the women must present sons to the warriors to be raised in warrior culture But women control almost everything else medicine, agricultu [...]

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Jennifer May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

My last update stated that I wasn t sure how I feel about this story I am now finished and the best I can come up with is that I am conflicted While I think I can understand how a society chooses to rebuild after a terrible event, and that society makes certain decisions so that terrible event doesn t happen again, I am not sure if they are the right decisions I was bothered by the lies I am not sure if a society built on lies would last The whole selective breeding, like reindeer and other anim [...]

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carmie May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

This is my favorite Sheri S Tepper book Many people consider her work to be lite, and that characterisation is accurate But easily understood, broadly stated truths are truths nonetheless I enjoy this book first and foremost for its detailed and fascinating depiction of a post apocalyptic matriarchal society much less depressing than A Canticle for Leibowitz The characters are well fleshed out and compassionately portrayed, even the villains And despite the futuristic setting, this is clearly a [...]

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Nakashi May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

I m not sure what to say about this book The first Tepper I read was Beauty when I was 14 and it left me unsettled and fascinated, but this book just left me nonplussed Unlike Beauty, I kept waiting to be drawn into the story although I m not sure how much of it I should attribute to Tepper s storytelling and how much to the fact that I am immediately put off by gender essentialism I found the inclusion of the Holyland in the story to present an alternative society where the power equation was r [...]

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Wendy May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

What a let down Sure, the plot kept me going, but I resent anyone, male or female, who confuses feminism with man hating As a woman, I found this book profoundly insulting to the men I love, and even many of the men I don t The only men who aren t lying, raping, manipulative butchers are some sort of mutant freaks that the women are trying to breed for What kind of equality is that What kind of dialogue of mutual understanding will come out of reading this Ursula Le Guin can not only write circl [...]

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Justin May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

This is probably the worst science fiction book that I have ever actually finished reading Tepper s agenda gets in the way of any developed narrative as she instead uses hundreds of pages to voice her disgust for the male gender in a fashion reminiscent of a jaded high school girls blog As a man who strongly opposes the alpha male, meathead style of masculinity, I found this book particularly ignorant.

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Martin May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

One thing I hate about many books is that they often starts off with flying colors with amazing prose and plotting, making me think it s going to be my new favorite book And then they usually glided, or stumbled, down into disappointments by the end of the story, when the author clearly ran out of ideas or got simply lazy.Not with this author.In fact, I hated the first 25 pages The writing was too forced, too overwrought, as Tepper attempted to set up the background and history of her story But [...]

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Tom May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

More like 3.5 and the end had me nudging the 4 Women s country is the story of a society created after we almost wiped humans off the face of the earth with our wars Their idea is to keep the women separated from the warriors The boys are taken from their families at age five to train with the warriors At age 15 they need to make a decision on whether they want to live inside the walls with the women or continue their lives as fighters The wars that are fought include only the warriors so that i [...]

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Glen Engel-Cox May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

I read this book for our book club, and that s pretty much the only reason I would have picked it up This is not because of its feminist slant, but because I generally despise books about post apocalyptic societies I d much rather read about some horrible technological dystopia than a utopian vision of people running around in furs and gardening The first third of this book did nothing to dispel that fear that this was one of those books either, from its beginning of feudal ceremony of the lead [...]

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Laurie Notaro May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

Interesting dystopian, maybe a little sic fi fdef out of my go to range Nice to read something I wouldn t ordinarily pick Read this for our NOW book group.

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Pippi Bluestocking May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

Not sure if this contains spoilers because it s mostly ranting Read at your own risk This is hardly a review, just some initial thoughts.First, this book gets 4 like 3,5 stars because it was really well written, with an amazing premise which, nevertheless, was explored in some ways I found fantastic and some I found terrible It s not the thing I d recommend gratuitously, only to really well read readership Truth is, the fact that I had read beforehand an interview of Tepper s which was, well, a [...]

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Jamie Collins May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

After an awkward beginning I nearly put the book down before page 50 I enjoyed this The Holylanders were a little over the top, but if I had read this when I was younger I probably would have been as fascinated by them as I was by the chained women of Darkover s Dry Towns.The story contains an ugly sort of feminism, but I ve read so many books where women are supressed that it didn t feel too bad to go the other way for once The author gave a point of view from every faction except the servitors [...]

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Shannon May 16, 2022 - 04:47 AM

The book started out fairly strong I was interested in the feminine society and the roles that women played within it But, at some point I just got bored It seemed like there were too many additional characters being interested and different story lines However, at the end the author tied everything together nicely Did I ENJOY the story No Have I thought about it a lot Absolutely I think I just came to point where I believed that there neither a male nor female dominated society is good Idealist [...]

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